Episode 121

Healing Relationships and Minds: The One-Step Therapy Revolution

Nicole and Mike Sebastian, founders of the Divine Guidance Institute and Wellness Center, share their unique approach to mental health and personal empowerment through the power of the "Hue" technique. This vibrational toning method aims to help individuals sidestep adversity and enhance their overall well-being by tapping into their inner guidance. Drawing from their own experiences, including Nicole's journey through PTSD after serving in Vietnam, they emphasize the importance of trusting oneself and listening to inner voices. The couple discusses the alarming mental health crisis affecting millions and the need for innovative solutions that go beyond traditional therapies. With their nonprofit initiative, they aspire to promote awareness and provide accessible tools for healing and self-discovery, encouraging listeners to explore their own dreams and intuition as pathways to personal transformation.

Takeaways:

  • Trust yourself is a powerful mantra that can guide you through life's challenges.
  • The ancient practice of hewing can help regulate energies and promote healing.
  • Intuition, dream signs, and inner guidance are vital tools for navigating life's uncertainties.
  • The Divine Guidance Institute aims to address the mental health crisis effectively and efficiently.
  • Hewing is a vibrational technique that can change your frequency and reality.
  • The importance of recognizing signs and using intuition to avoid being blindsided.

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Featured on VH1A N E E and countless others.

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Rev.

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Dr.

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Nicole and Mike Sebastian are founders of their new nonprofit Divine Guidance Institute and Wellness Center Inc.

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Modern day Mystery School Teaching the Ancient Way of knowing so you never get blindsided again and authors of Trust Yourself, A Personal Roadmap for Knowing the Ancient Way of Knowing, Trust Yourself System, Sociology of the Soul, A Spiritual Wake up Call and One step Therapy.

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Just say hu.

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The universal panacea for all that ails you.

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We welcome them to the podcast.

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Well, we welcome to the podcast today.

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Nick and Mike.

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How are you guys doing today?

Mike:

Hey, Keith.

Mike:

We are doing good.

Nicole:

Thanks for having us, Keith.

Nicole:

Yeah, doing good.

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I'm looking forward to.

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So I'm going to ask you guys my favorite question.

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You get to decide who answers the question first.

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But the question is, what is the best piece of advice you've ever received?

Mike:

Michael?

Nicole:

I was going to go, hey, Nick.

Nicole:

Yeah.

Nicole:

The best advice I've ever received is trust yourself.

Nicole:

Two words, trust yourself.

Nicole:

And that came not from someone out here, a role model, mentor, educator.

Nicole:

It came from within that, you know, we would call it Holy Spirit, really listening inwardly and not looking outwardly.

Nicole:

And I was, I was always told to trust yourself.

Nicole:

And it's literally say, I can't tell you how many times it saved my life.

Nicole:

So I was in Vietnam and in combat and I was, somebody made me a deal when I got in country, I wasn't even placed yet.

Nicole:

I was waiting to go up north to a company and a captain said, hey, you want to come with me?

Nicole:

And I was in the artillery and he's infantry.

Nicole:

Well, you're going to, you know, your life expectancy is a couple weeks at that time, 68, 69.

Nicole:

And that little inner voice said, go ahead and take the deal.

Nicole:

Go with him.

Nicole:

And I did.

Nicole:

And I sidestepped, really sidestepped a lot of adversity.

Nicole:

And it's probably the only reason I'm still alive.

Nicole:

And I, I trusted myself as opposed to going with, you know, the contemporary wisdom of oh, no, don't do that, because this is safer and that's more dangerous.

Nicole:

So, yeah, trust yourself.

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Love that.

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Your co.

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Your turn, Nick.

Mike:

All right.

Mike:

You know, I'd have to say and, and, and that's why we actually, you know, that's why we name of our system is called Trust Yourself.

Mike:

It's really the same thing.

Mike:

You know, I didn't grow up with, with siblings, father, nothing.

Mike:

So I mean, mom, and mom was cool, but she kind of let me do my own thing, you know.

Mike:

So all Along.

Mike:

I've really been trusting myself, if you will.

Mike:

And I can say my biggest moments, Keith, were when, you know, my, my crossroads, those critical times, even, even Michael, because now we've been together 30 years and he was, he's twice my age.

Mike:

At the time when we met, I was 24 and twice my age.

Mike:

But I knew in instantly that he was the one soul mate.

Mike:

We had a mission.

Mike:

So I've been following the call of Holy Spirit.

Mike:

Some people, you know, we work with a lot of different faiths.

Mike:

Right, Keith?

Mike:

And, and those, and lack thereof.

Mike:

So, you know, we kind of like to use broad terms, Holy Spirit, the universe, your higher self.

Mike:

You know, to us it's semantics and it's just, it's, it's, it's all one, but, but to appeal to, to the masses, you know what I mean?

Mike:

So.

Mike:

But it was that higher voice that's always led me at those critical times.

Mike:

And now it's 24 7.

Mike:

You know, dreams while we're sleeping and signs and intuition while we're awake.

Mike:

And there's the voice of holy spirit, all 24 7.

Mike:

So.

Mike:

So there you go.

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Yeah, I love that.

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You know, I'm always curious.

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In our journey, especially meeting as couples, there are always people in your life who came along to be an inspiration and mentor.

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Who are some of those people in.

Mike:

Your lives, Michael, you got anybody?

Nicole:

It's always been, here's the truth.

Nicole:

You know, it's.

Nicole:

It's kind of like that one liner and a few good men.

Nicole:

Nicholson says, the truth.

Nicole:

Can you handle the truth?

Nicole:

And I usually pull the punch because.

Nicole:

But you can handle the truth, Keith.

Nicole:

So we're going to go down that road.

Nicole:

And I've never really had any outward mentors.

Nicole:

I've always been a loner, only child, kind of like Nicole, not a lot of parental background stuff.

Nicole:

And I've always been my own role model.

Nicole:

In other words, as I achieve my goals in life, I, I became my own mentor, my own role model.

Nicole:

And I did not so much look outward for mentors and role models in my environment.

Nicole:

I sort of always looked in the mirror to myself and held myself accountable and made a move.

Nicole:

And in many cases, as you well know, life being life, it was the wrong move.

Nicole:

Right?

Nicole:

I, you know, had a lot of adversity or I got my butt kicked.

Nicole:

But I learned quickly, experientially, how to use those tools, those that, that were.

Nicole:

I already had the tools.

Nicole:

I just needed to sharpen them and learn to rely on them.

Nicole:

So that's what worked for me.

Mike:

Keith, for me, it's, it's truthfully, it's, it's a reciprocal relationship with Holy Spirit.

Mike:

And as I mentioned, it's a 247 thing, but it's like a dialogue with myself, but it's truly Holy Spirit.

Mike:

And even I remember, you know, sitting in an AA meeting long when I was 23 years old and, and I had to get to class and I was running out of cigarettes.

Mike:

I had like two cigarettes left, right?

Mike:

And, and you know, now I'm a clinical psychologist and an addictionologist.

Mike:

I've been addicted to everything under the sun.

Mike:

So anyhow, I was sitting in that meeting and I'm like, oh my God, I got to get, I got to get, get to class, but I got to get cigarettes and I don't want to be late.

Mike:

And, and this is back in the 90s.

Mike:

And the inner voice said, nicole, you don't have to get cigarettes.

Mike:

As a matter of fact, you never have to buy cigarettes again.

Mike:

And I was like, well, who the hell was that?

Mike:

It was, it was the inner voice.

Mike:

It was Holy Spirit.

Mike:

And I thought, really, I thought, well, what an interesting concept.

Mike:

Now I still left and I went and bought a pack of cigarettes.

Mike:

But I'll tell you, within one month I quit smoking.

Mike:

So it resonated, I pondered, I set a plan and took a course of action.

Mike:

So it's Spirit.

Mike:

I consider it my best friend and my buddy.

Host:

So what inspired you guys to establish Divine Guidance Institute and Wellness Center, Inc.

Mike:

Ah, sure, you bet.

Mike:

Okay.

Mike:

There are two severe public crisis mental health and the blindsided crisis.

Mike:

Mental health is just what it is.

Mike:

Right now.

Mike:

There's 2 million people on the waiting list in the UK, Keith, waiting for mental health treatment.

Mike:

2 million people waiting, you know, half.

Mike:

There's the, the percentage of people with anxiety diagnosed here in the US it's at almost 50%.

Mike:

Okay, so it's off the charts.

Mike:

The mental health crisis, then the blindsided crisis.

Mike:

Blindsided.

Mike:

It's in the news headlines weekly.

Mike:

30 to 50 headlines per week.

Mike:

I was blindsided.

Mike:

They blindsided me.

Mike:

I got blindsided.

Mike:

Everything from your celebrities, your sports figures to your modern day folk.

Mike:

And since spirit is running 24, seven on autopilot, dream signs and intuition for constant divine guidance, you can actually use those tools to not get blindsided, to change your course.

Mike:

Correct, make, make a course correction.

Mike:

And if at the worst or at the least, you know it's coming.

Mike:

So it softens the blow so you don't get knocked off.

Mike:

If you knew something was coming, you couldn't change it, it softens the blow.

Mike:

And so those.

Mike:

Let me give you a couple quick stats.

Mike:

400,000 women this year alone were misdiagnosed with breast cancer.

Mike:

Misdiagnosed with breast cancer.

Mike:

800,000 medical misdiagnosis this year alone, leading to serious injury or death.

Mike:

We're talking about medical misdiagnosis right now.

Mike:

Let's go to employment.

Mike:

74% of employers hire the wrong employee, end up having to get rid of them.

Mike:

And the cost of that is $240,000 per person.

Mike:

Okay, now we can go to dating.

Mike:

81% of people lie on their online dating profile.

Mike:

Let's go to the elderly, then I'll throw it back at you.

Mike:

$3.4 billion this year alone.

Mike:

Financial scamming with the elderly, up 11% from last year.

Mike:

So, Keith, it is rampant.

Mike:

And people aren't using their God given tools, those higher, finer tools of knowingness.

Mike:

That's why we call it the ancient way of knowing.

Mike:

So you get warned and you can, you know, sidestep adversity.

Mike:

So those crisis and those stats, we were compelled, Keith, compelled to start the nonprofit.

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So I've had several people on my podcast recently talking about mental illness, especially in our country.

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And the one thing this doctor kind of, I guess, made me aware of is that we pay for physical issues.

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We even have all kind of support for physical.

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Mental issues.

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Physical issues.

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But we do not take care of the mental part of our lives.

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And that's one of the areas, because there's no specific treatment that you can say, you need three sessions of this and we'll pay for that.

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So it tends to be inconsistent.

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So tell us a little bit about what you do differently than just a typical mental awareness health people do, because I think you were taught what you're on to is something very different than let me go sit down and talk with a psychiatrist for three or four sessions and you'll give me some prescription things to do or medication to solve my problems.

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Tell us how you're different.

Nicole:

Yeah, most of the docs these days are, they write scripts and they do tests.

Nicole:

That's it.

Nicole:

So if I go to the va, you know, I, they run a bunch of tests and then they flip a bunch of scripts, which really doesn't address the cause at all.

Nicole:

And in many cases it causes more problems because then I'm on all these meds and they all have these, you know, negative effects.

Nicole:

So.

Nicole:

didn't know a lot about it in:

Nicole:

And I had depression, anxiety off the scale and nightmares, suicidal ideation at least once a week, you know, literally hold a gun to my head.

Nicole:

So I was on the way to the va, where else could I go?

Nicole:

But before I got there, I ran across the U.

Nicole:

I found the Hue Hu.

Nicole:

And it's a toning technique.

Nicole:

It's a vibrational toning technique.

Nicole:

Goes like this.

Nicole:

I'll give you a demo just like.

Nicole:

And it's pronounced like, like the name Hue.

Nicole:

And it said that it gets rid of all the.

Nicole:

Oh, and I was reading all the.

Nicole:

The background on the hue and it said it will address all these different emotional issues, negative mental problems.

Nicole:

So I started trying it.

Nicole:

And in a very short period of time, all the depression and the anxiety and the nightmare, suicidal ideation abated, lessened and pretty soon they were gone.

Nicole:

No doc, no meds, no therapy.

Nicole:

And that's when I knew for sure I had found a secret word.

Nicole:

Literally, I had found one magic word because I thought, whoa, what does this that quickly and effectively and works maybe, you know, it works just for me, but that's not the case.

Nicole:

And I'll go, let me go biblical really here for just a second.

Nicole:

It's.

Nicole:

And it always intrigued me.

Nicole:

John 1:1, in the beginning was the Word.

Nicole:

Word was with God.

Nicole:

The Word was God.

Nicole:

And I used to.

Nicole:

In high school, I went to a private, private high school actually.

Nicole:

Joe Biden was there for a while.

Nicole:

So people go, you don't know Joe Biden?

Nicole:

Oh yeah, I knew Joe.

Nicole:

Anyway, the Jesuits, it was taught by the Jesuits.

Nicole:

And I used to ask them, father, what is that?

Nicole:

In the beginning was the Word, what is that word?

Nicole:

What is that?

Nicole:

They did not know.

Nicole:

And they all had PhDs and know well schooled.

Nicole:

But that word, as we found out with our research, Nick and I doing research over 10, 25 years, we found out that word is Hugh Hu.

Nicole:

And that's what created everything.

Nicole:

And that is why it is so extremely powerful.

Nicole:

If it can create the universe, of course it can heal instantly.

Nicole:

And that's when we started using Hugh and wrote the book.

Nicole:

You know, just say Hugh one step therapy.

Host:

Interesting.

Host:

Yeah.

Host:

From our, well, my theological background, we talk about John 1:1.

Host:

We usually connect that to Jesus and him being the Word.

Host:

So he was.

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Is a, is a perspective I've never heard before.

Mike:

But yeah, Keith, if I may.

Mike:

Let me, let me just grab the book here.

Mike:

The word Hugh comes from the word human.

Mike:

The Word Human in the Oxford English Dictionary actually means God.

Mike:

Man, God within man, human.

Mike:

So that's the origin of the word.

Mike:

And in doing our research, we traced it all the way back to Egypt 15,000 years ago.

Mike:

They used to hue with the Sphinx from dusk until dawn as a society to.

Mike:

To uplift the people.

Mike:

And then in doing our research further, we found the word hue in 14 different religions and their sacred book.

Mike:

The word alleluia came from the word.

Mike:

It used to be Allah hu long ago in the, you know, in the other version of.

Mike:

Of the Bible.

Mike:

And in the 14.

Mike:

Hang on.

Mike:

Right here we've got it.

Mike:

The 14 different religions.

Mike:

Oh, we've got a whole chapter devoted to the history here.

Mike:

It's really cool.

Mike:

We did all of our.

Mike:

Our science.

Mike:

Vibrational therapy is what the hue is based on.

Mike:

Vibrational therapy, working with the EEGs, the oximeter and vibroacoustic, changing your atoms.

Mike:

That's how the hue works mechanically.

Mike:

Central nervous system atoms, subatomic particles uplifting and harmonizing your.

Mike:

Your atomic structure.

Mike:

Just like in the olden days, Keith, when we used to tune up a car and we would change the spark plug so it would run smooth.

Mike:

The hue literally tunes up your central nervous system.

Mike:

And it works that way.

Mike:

And then those 14 religions, if I may, we found the word hue in their sacred book once again.

Mike:

Buddhism, Christianity, Celtics, Druids, the Masons, Gnosticism, Islam, Judaism, the Kabbalah, the Siks, the Sufis, Zoroastrianism, and modern times, Ekankar.

Mike:

The path of spiritual freedom.

Mike:

We found that word in all those religions, including the Oxford English Dictionary.

Mike:

So it's got the power of the word combined with that vibrational toning, and that's why.

Mike:

And using it with clients for 25 years.

Mike:

The cool thing, and I'll turn it back over to you, Keith, is simply, I tell the people, don't stop anything.

Mike:

Don't change anything.

Mike:

Add the hue, add the hue to whatever you're doing, and you will see before long, the hue comes in and it fills all the gaps.

Mike:

Anywhere there's a deficiency, it comes in and heals, even, like, so you don't have to program it like, well, I want to work on cigarettes and anxiety and I want to be more loving.

Mike:

And you just start hewing and it automatically.

Mike:

It's.

Mike:

It's amazing.

Nicole:

And you know, it.

Nicole:

It literally.

Nicole:

A funny story.

Nicole:

We were doing a show in your dreams in New York.

Nicole:

We were the dream team, the talent.

Nicole:

And the director said, okay, cut.

Nicole:

We're taking a break.

Nicole:

And during the break, Cameraman.

Nicole:

One of the cameramen came over and said, wow, I heard you guys hewing.

Nicole:

I haven't heard that in so long.

Nicole:

And I said, really?

Nicole:

You're familiar with the human.

Nicole:

What religion are you?

Nicole:

What spiritual path?

Nicole:

And he said, druid.

Nicole:

I'm a druid.

Nicole:

And I said, wow, you're the first druid I've ever met.

Nicole:

What is a druid?

Nicole:

So it was really kind of funny.

Nicole:

But it proves the point that it goes back.

Nicole:

The hue has been around thousands and thousands of years.

Nicole:

And I.

Nicole:

I even worked with it when we were in Hollywood.

Nicole:

We were living in la, in Hollywood, and one of the Lakers, and I won't say who.

Nicole:

I won't.

Nicole:

Adam Famous, everybody knows him.

Nicole:

He came back to get his MBA at night, and I was his counselor, so.

Nicole:

And he wasn't on the rolls.

Nicole:

They kept him off the rolls.

Nicole:

And I went into a room with them and I said, so what's your, you know, what's your concern?

Nicole:

Why?

Nicole:

What's your greatest fear?

Nicole:

He said, mike, I can't even believe I'm here.

Nicole:

He said, I've got, you know, I play all the time.

Nicole:

He said, I've got family.

Nicole:

He said, I've got endorsements.

Nicole:

He said, oh, my God.

Nicole:

He said, I don't think I'm going to be able to do it, but I've always wanted to do it.

Nicole:

It's a dream of mine.

Nicole:

And I said, okay, I got something for you.

Nicole:

And I gave him the hue and he bust out laughing.

Nicole:

And he said, mike, are you kidding me?

Nicole:

I've got all these problems, and you've got me humming what the hell?

Nicole:

And I said, hey, bro, don't.

Nicole:

Don't knock it till you try it.

Nicole:

He said, fair enough.

Nicole:

Fair enough.

Nicole:

Month goes by, we got to meet again to see how the program's gone.

Nicole:

When I walked into the room, he was already there.

Nicole:

Just to tease him, I said, have you been hewing?

Nicole:

Before he could even speak, he said, have I been hewing?

Nicole:

My family's hewing?

Nicole:

He said, the coach has started hewing.

Nicole:

And he said, I'll tell you why.

Nicole:

Because it works.

Nicole:

The focus took my game to another level because the coach said, what are you doing?

Nicole:

And I told him about the Hugh.

Nicole:

He said, I'm going to start hewing.

Nicole:

So we know it works and it works consistently.

Host:

Was that the Showtime Lakers?

Host:

Because if it was affected my Philadelphia 76ers, and I didn't like that.

Mike:

This was about 17 years ago.

Host:

Yeah, yeah, that would have been my show.

Host:

That would have been the Showtime Lakers I messed up my 76ers championship run.

Host:

Thank you so much for ruining my, my basketball dreams there.

Mike:

Yeah, we need to share the hue with the 76ers.

Mike:

There you go.

Host:

Maybe share it with some other teams that are doing pretty bad.

Host:

So tell us, tell me about what led you to write the book.

Host:

Trust yourself.

Host:

A personal roadmap for knowing.

Mike:

Oh, the insanity.

Mike:

The insanity factor.

Mike:

And you know, we're built, we're all constructed the same way.

Mike:

And then we've got dream signs and intuition which are on autopilot within us.

Mike:

Like, you don't pay to do it.

Mike:

You dream every night, even if you don't remember.

Mike:

Everyone's witnessed a sign and, and a gut feeling despite their faith or lack thereof.

Mike:

Even the atheist dreams every night.

Mike:

I love to say so we've got these things going on and they're 24, 7 autopilot, the way we were built and constructed.

Mike:

And, and just by tracking the data then you see, like, you don't have to go make life and death choices, just track your data like, oh, I had a dream and let's see how it turns out.

Mike:

And, and then, then you find out it was providing a pearl of wisdom.

Mike:

Right.

Mike:

And so the insanity out there, it, it's so much.

Mike:

And we have this at our fingertips and it's free.

Mike:

It's like we've got, we can't get a microphone, we, that's loud enough.

Mike:

Do you know what I'm saying?

Mike:

Like, it's imperative.

Mike:

It's built in.

Mike:

When I was 24, I said to Michael, we're going to call it trust yourself and we're gonna uplift humanity.

Nicole:

And I started laughing.

Nicole:

I said, humanity?

Nicole:

Are you crazy?

Nicole:

What do we care about humanity?

Nicole:

It's about her life, you know, and she's, she was down the road already.

Mike:

So it's, it's.

Mike:

I, I feel I came in this life to do this, like to spread this message, you know, so, so yeah, it's pretty cool.

Mike:

It's a lot of fun and it's beneficial, you know, I think.

Mike:

Yeah.

Mike:

So there you go.

Host:

I love it.

Host:

I want to go back to something we were just talking about because I meant to ask this question I thought about after I asked you that question, when you mentioned the, the hue and, and tapping into that sound, the, the, the rhythm of that.

Host:

I, I'm curious because I've heard a lot of people talk about, you know, metaphysics and how the helping the body heal itself and, and regulating energies within the body.

Host:

Is that a part of what that helps the body to do is to kind of regulate its energies by tapping into that.

Host:

I'm just kind of curious as I was thinking about that.

Mike:

Yes, absolutely.

Mike:

And you know what, I'm like, Nicole, I didn't share some vital things.

Mike:

I'm so glad you mentioned it, Keith.

Mike:

Yes, absolutely.

Mike:

And you know, here's the demo.

Mike:

Inhale and on the exhale, inhale.

Mike:

Hugh.

Mike:

It's that simple, right?

Mike:

The cool thing, you can do it out loud or silent eyes open or closed while you're doing the dishes or while you're in a business meeting.

Mike:

It's that user friendly and it is, it's your own pitches process perfect.

Mike:

So it doesn't have to be a certain frequency.

Mike:

And once again it goes in and it, it fills all, all the deficiencies it starts working on.

Mike:

You know, I've had people like on a methadone dose for eight years and you know, I say add the hue, don't worry about the dose, just add the hue and then they'll come back and a week later, you know, I want to bring my dose down.

Mike:

And they've been on a dose for eight years, like, and they're happy with that dose.

Mike:

And all of a sudden, you know, it's like the call of spirit, the call of soul.

Mike:

It starts waking things up and like, and it, what it does, it, it, it helps us end up striving for our highest self.

Mike:

Our best version of us is what end.

Mike:

That's the result.

Mike:

The best version of us is what happens.

Nicole:

And let me, let me just add mechanically, here's a way because you started to go down that road, I think, how does it really work Site?

Nicole:

You know, scientifically what it is is simple quantum physics.

Nicole:

And you know, everyone laughs and there's no simple quantum physics, Mike.

Nicole:

Yeah, I know and I've been studying Quantum for maybe 20 years.

Nicole:

I just enjoy it.

Nicole:

But what it does is in quantum, quantum says all there is really at the quantum level is a vibration.

Nicole:

Everything's a vibration with a different frequency.

Nicole:

That's why we're different individuals.

Nicole:

I have a different frequency than you and you have a different frequency than Nick and everything's slightly different.

Nicole:

And the hue is that it's a vibrational toning technique.

Nicole:

So when I, you, you, I literally begin to change the vibrations of myself from the inside out.

Nicole:

And quantum physics states when you change the frequency, you literally change the reality.

Nicole:

It said, for example, say you're feeling depressed and you know, everybody knows what depression feels like or maybe anxious, extremely anxious.

Nicole:

And when I, you, you, if depression is at a 2 on a scale of 1 to 10, it takes me all the way up to a 9.

Nicole:

It's a different reality.

Nicole:

Suddenly, I feel balanced in harmony.

Nicole:

Wow.

Nicole:

I'm feeling joy.

Nicole:

Thirty seconds ago, I was.

Nicole:

I was feeling depressed.

Nicole:

I.

Nicole:

By changing the frequency, I change the reality.

Nicole:

And that's.

Nicole:

That's how it works at a quantum level.

Nicole:

And it's.

Nicole:

It's an interesting.

Nicole:

It's an interesting thing because quantum entanglement, everything is connected.

Nicole:

So when I hue, I literally reconnect and change the reality of my environment.

Host:

That's interesting.

Nicole:

Mm.

Host:

I'm curious, you know, you've been doing this for a while, and we all love to hear success stories.

Host:

Can you think of a particular client or situation that stands out in your mind of someone who you.

Host:

Who you walked in and you'll be able to help through the work that you do?

Mike:

Oh, we've got a.

Mike:

Yeah, a whole lot coming to mind, actually.

Mike:

The cool thing, you know, NBC, we've done a lot of television, as you're aware of, and NBC came in several times.

Mike:

They did an investigative piece.

Mike:

They picked the clients, Keith.

Mike:

They picked them.

Mike:

And we did before and after, and we did one week in between.

Mike:

So they filmed before and the problem.

Mike:

And here's the prescription, the hue, and then they filmed after.

Mike:

And like I said, they picked the people.

Nicole:

They were skeptical, very skeptical.

Nicole:

Hit the front end, which is good, because if it's going to work, it's got to work with skeptics, too.

Nicole:

Go ahead.

Mike:

And so the one guy, the result was, you know, he's like, hey, I'm not smoking as much.

Mike:

And she.

Mike:

She's like, you know, I'm just.

Mike:

I'm making all these connections and I'm dreaming and I'm remembering my dreams, and I started journaling everything, and the connections are coming through.

Mike:

So the tapestry, you know, so that's just two examples in the.

Mike:

In the methadone case.

Mike:

Here.

Mike:

Here's something.

Mike:

A stranger emailed us from Washington, and he said, I wanna.

Mike:

I'm suicidal and I wanna kill myself.

Mike:

Now, he's not our client, so there's not much we can do at this point.

Mike:

He sends us an email, right?

Mike:

The only thing I could do, we send him the hue.

Mike:

We gave him the hue technique.

Mike:

And this is what he said.

Mike:

We, we.

Mike:

He.

Mike:

We heard from him like a week later, right?

Mike:

He says, hewing helped me get over that obsessive, oppressive, urgent, seemingly hopeless drive to kill myself and see other options.

Mike:

He had a plan.

Mike:

He was going to jump into Crater Lake in Washington.

Mike:

And like that you can't get out of Crater Lake too easily.

Mike:

And you know, Crater came, boom, boom type stuff.

Mike:

So.

Mike:

So you talk about suicide, which is off the charts right now, left and right.

Mike:

The hue, as Michael mentioned, that reality of that vibration and that word human God, man, that vibe does it literally, Keith.

Mike:

It literally does not allow an individual to kill themselves if they are hewing.

Mike:

And I don't mean in the moment, I mean if they've done, you know, just, just hewing.

Mike:

Because you can hew up to 20 minutes a day, by the way, never more than 20.

Mike:

You could do like four or five minute sessions or a 10 minute session here or there before bed or when they wake up or, you know, at lunchtime type of thing.

Mike:

And by changing that vibe, you literally cannot kill yourself if you're hewing.

Mike:

Like, if one thing should go out for the people and it's, it's because it violates soul.

Mike:

It violates a spiritual law, Keith, to kill ourselves, you know, and so you got that hue vibe going on.

Mike:

You can't do it.

Mike:

It changes things to that level to where it's, it's not an option, you know.

Host:

So why only 20 minutes a day?

Mike:

Well, actually, that's all that's, that's all that's needed.

Host:

Okay.

Mike:

It's that effective.

Mike:

You know, if you do too much, it's probably like overload or like, it tends to overload.

Nicole:

You know, it goes back to that one liner that I like.

Nicole:

The truth.

Nicole:

You can't handle the truth.

Nicole:

And most people's state of consciousness, if, if they do over 20 minutes, 30 more, an hour, a lot of times things will come in because it connect real literally.

Nicole:

It connects us with Holy Spirit.

Nicole:

The energy we go, tend to go into it and we might come out with an overload or too much.

Nicole:

So we, we want to temper it and do little bits and pieces and it'll slowly fine tune us until we can someday do much more.

Mike:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, people do more.

Mike:

But you know, the cool thing is it's not necessary.

Mike:

And that's, that's really the cool thing with time and, and people's schedules and.

Mike:

Oh, I keep wanting to say something and it keeps.

Mike:

It is.

Mike:

It escapes me.

Mike:

Maybe it'll come back.

Mike:

But, but yeah, so that suicide thing and the anxiety, here's something right here.

Mike:

This is a client.

Mike:

She's.

Mike:

Now that I hew before bed when I wake up in the morning, the Xanax is still on the nightstand, the ashtray still empty, and the Diet Coke is still unopened.

Mike:

Like all of her favorite goodies, right?

Mike:

Cigarettes, Xanax, Diet Coke.

Mike:

She didn't need them.

Mike:

It's like it, it's, you're the best version of you is what happens.

Mike:

So.

Mike:

Oh, and the coupling that occurs.

Mike:

Oh, Keith, I gotta share this with the audience.

Mike:

Share the, the coupling and energy, the harmony that happens with couples.

Mike:

And we share this with all of our couples.

Mike:

You start hewing, like if there's a problem.

Mike:

I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what.

Mike:

If JLo and Ben would have started hewing, and I don't mean together, Hugh, although you can hew together, but it's not necessary.

Mike:

If they would have started hewing, the most likely they wouldn't have had to.

Mike:

It wouldn't have led to divorce because it heals and brings harmony.

Mike:

We've got our own state of consciousness, right?

Mike:

So if I don't vibe with someone, I don't vibe.

Mike:

And you can feel a vibe when you meet someone, they got a good vibe, a bad, a bad vibe type thing.

Mike:

And so it's a state of consciousness.

Mike:

It's actually called a quantum signature.

Mike:

And we harmonize with people or we don't.

Mike:

So if two people are in a relationship and they're having trouble, you start hewing and it elevates.

Mike:

The best versions come out and then the harmony.

Mike:

So it really heals relationships at a miraculous level.

Host:

Keith, that's awesome.

Host:

So what are some of the biggest challenges you have in what you're doing next?

Host:

What's your next big project that you're trying to work on?

Mike:

Well.

Mike:

Oh, did you want to say something?

Nicole:

No, go ahead.

Mike:

I was going to go ahead.

Nicole:

Yeah.

Nicole:

While we're working on, like Nick mentioned earlier, the mental health field because it's so huge and I, I haven't run into anyone who isn't dealing with it at some level.

Nicole:

So we're really trying to figure all of the different ways and sources to get the word out there to you.

Nicole:

Because the hue is so quick, it doesn't require a year of therapy or two years of therapy.

Mike:

We call it one step therapy, actually.

Nicole:

And it's quick, efficient.

Nicole:

Now I've never.

Nicole:

This is from the heart.

Nicole:

And when we started this mission, I used to, I, we used to say, one would share it like we're going on a TV show or I said, and you know, the producer would say, well, I'm going to try it, see if it works.

Nicole:

If it doesn't, well, we're not having you guys on.

Nicole:

And it's, I thought, oh, I hope that works.

Nicole:

It's never ever not worked.

Nicole:

Every, everyone feels it.

Nicole:

And we're also stepping into the field more of relationships right now because it's, it's a wide open door.

Nicole:

Also.

Mike:

What I wanted to say, Keith, is we just started the non profit in April.

Mike:

So that's our newest, biggest endeavor.

Mike:

You know, we need the donations, we need global awareness.

Mike:

That's, that's the real deal right here.

Mike:

Even though we've been doing this, like we said for a long time, it's such a crisis that we said we need a non profit, we need the message.

Mike:

It's got to get out there.

Mike:

The public, they're, they're in dire straits.

Mike:

So the global awareness and, and that's there, there's, that's where we are.

Mike:

There we go.

Host:

I love it.

Host:

So I love to ask my guests this question.

Host:

What do you want your legacy to be?

Mike:

Ah, go ahead.

Mike:

Divine Guidance Institute and Wellness Center.

Mike:

Absolutely.

Mike:

And One Step Therapy.

Mike:

You know, we're about to do some peer review with, with the One Step Therapy and get it, turn it into an actual modality.

Mike:

Emdr, qb, qbt.

Mike:

One Step Therapy.

Mike:

So those two things.

Mike:

Yeah, and the ancient way of knowing dream signs, intuition as a methodology.

Mike:

The cool thing, Keith, you can program a dream at night.

Mike:

You know, is my spouse cheating?

Mike:

And you can ask, you can program a dream, you know, are my kids doing drugs?

Mike:

Should I move to Texas?

Mike:

Is my deceased grandmother in heaven?

Mike:

Is she okay?

Mike:

You can ask these questions and you will receive an answer.

Mike:

You will receive divine guidance.

Mike:

And let's say someone's a little leery, right?

Mike:

Or uncertain, they can ask again.

Mike:

They can ask again.

Mike:

You can say, okay, I had the dream and it showed me this.

Mike:

I want.

Mike:

I still don't know.

Mike:

I need a sign.

Mike:

I need a sign.

Mike:

God, dmx, you know, Lord, give me a sign.

Mike:

I need a sign.

Mike:

I need, you know, another confirmation.

Mike:

And we call it a trio of methodology, dream signs, intuition.

Mike:

And so it works this way as you get your confirmations, it builds your confidence in using your tools with your connection with Holy Spirit or your higher self, whatever you want to say.

Mike:

And, and then it's, yeah, there you go.

Nicole:

And that's how I knew that dreams were prophetic in many cases and they were important.

Nicole:

I should be paying attention to them because I was teaching college in Texas sociology.

Nicole:

I'm a sociologist, but I'd been teaching for a while and I had a real clear dream one night, very vivid dream.

Nicole:

And you know, luckily I wrote it down, journaled the whole dream.

Nicole:

And in the Dream there was a girl and her name was Nicole.

Nicole:

Had blonde hair, brown eyed, looked just like Nicole.

Nicole:

Flash forward three years, three years later, who walks into, who walks into my sociology class and sits in the front row?

Nicole:

Nicole.

Nicole:

So that dream, at some point I didn't remember it right away.

Nicole:

That's another whole story in the backstory.

Nicole:

It took a while.

Nicole:

I was having deja vu.

Nicole:

Like wow, this looks familiar.

Nicole:

That already having seen and it's a forgotten dream, it's already in our subconscious.

Nicole:

But that taught me how important dreams were.

Nicole:

And then when I walked her back to her car on our first or second date, the license plate on her car, the first three letters and I'd never seen it in Texas before, it was krw.

Nicole:

They were the initials of my ex wife.

Nicole:

And I went, whoa.

Nicole:

I knew at that point it was a significant, it was a sign or you know, what was the message.

Nicole:

Important relationship, pay attention.

Nicole:

My life is going to take it.

Nicole:

Take a right turn.

Nicole:

And it did.

Host:

That's so cool.

Host:

So I'm curious as our listeners are kind of tapping into what we talked about today.

Host:

What key takeaways do you want to leave with the audience?

Mike:

All right, one magic word.

Mike:

Just say Hugh again out loud.

Mike:

Silent eyes open or closed?

Mike:

They can experiment with it.

Mike:

Don't take our word.

Mike:

No, no, experiment.

Mike:

See by the results, you know, See by the results.

Mike:

And then, and then they'll come to know because it sounds silly and it sounds too simple.

Mike:

Oh, I just remembered what I was going to say.

Mike:

Keith, you know the om yoga and.

Mike:

Oh yeah.

Mike:

Okay people, there's, there's even a section in the book the Hue vs Ohm.

Mike:

The Ohm only takes you to the mental level.

Mike:

That's why it helps with emotions and mental.

Mike:

The hue takes you all the way to beyond duality.

Mike:

That's why it's best.

Mike:

It's, it's a quicker version.

Mike:

It goes beyond duality.

Mike:

It combines the right and the left so you have superior decision making skills, superior access and knowledge all blended.

Mike:

So it really, it, it works on all these different levels.

Mike:

So it's, it's quicker than the hue.

Mike:

But people can experiment and that's good.

Mike:

Experiment and, and see what's up for yourself.

Mike:

And what was the other, what were you going to say?

Mike:

We going to say something.

Nicole:

Take a good takeaway is to use those inner powers because we already have them.

Nicole:

Dream signs and intuition.

Nicole:

And our society today, the reason people are getting blindsided in astronomical numbers is they're using the left brain, the data, the rationality.

Nicole:

We, we Work with a lot of finance people and, and talk finance and go on money shows.

Nicole:

And you would think, what's the hue got to do?

Nicole:

And I just tell them, you're using your left brain, but you got, you lost your money, you got blindsided.

Nicole:

How is that when you did all your homework?

Nicole:

That's because you weren't using your intuition, your signs and your, your dreams because they keep us right on track and something doesn't feel right.

Nicole:

Even though the data says do it, if it doesn't feel right, it's not right.

Nicole:

So, yeah, take that away.

Mike:

Oh, you know what else we do have for your audience?

Mike:

If they, if they want, they can go to our website.

Mike:

We have a free mini course.

Mike:

It's called the Dream Decoder Course.

Mike:

They can sign up for it, it's totally free.

Mike:

And they'll, they'll start with one magic word and they'll go right into the Dream Decoder Mini course to get them rocking and rolling using the tools.

Mike:

Then they can experiment and see what results they get themselves.

Mike:

And yeah, so, hey, so how does.

Host:

Audience make tech use of that?

Mike:

Yes, they can just go to the website, divine guidance institute.org divine guidanceinstitute.org and it'll pop up, you know, dream decoder mini course type thing.

Mike:

And they can just sign up right there.

Mike:

And of course, there's do it yourself books or donations or whatever, or they can email us right through the website too.

Mike:

So if they have a question or something.

Mike:

But yeah, the takeaways, one magic word, the hue, and, and start with the Dream Decoder Mini course and before they know it, whoa, things happen.

Mike:

Quick, quick, quick, quick.

Host:

So, yeah, well, thank you both for coming on and providing such an interesting conversation for the audience.

Host:

I'm so glad we connected, I think through the summit, if I'm not mistaken.

Mike:

So, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mike:

Thanks so much for having us.

Nicole:

Yeah, thanks.

Mike:

Fabulous.

Nicole:

It's been fun, Keith, appreciate it.

Host:

So give us the website one more time as we close this out.

Mike:

Okay.

Mike:

Divineguidanceinstitute.org org.

Host:

Is that where they also find all the books that you guys have written?

Host:

Because you have a lot of books I see behind you.

Mike:

Yeah, yep, yep, Everything's right there.

Host:

All right.

Host:

Anywhere else besides the website?

Host:

Amazon or.

Mike:

Oh, of course.

Mike:

Oh, yeah, certainly Amazon.

Mike:

Amazon and then our social media.

Mike:

But, but that all links back to Amazon and the website.

Host:

So, yeah, so give us the names of the books that you.

Host:

You'd recommend.

Host:

If someone wanted to kind of get into this, where would they start?

Mike:

Oh, well, okay, right here.

Mike:

We got, we got one step therapy.

Mike:

This is the one magic word.

Mike:

Just say Hugh.

Mike:

The universal panacea.

Mike:

Then we got this goodie.

Mike:

Trust yourself.

Mike:

Master your dreams.

Mike:

Master your destiny.

Mike:

A personal road map for knowing.

Mike:

Oh, Michael's grabbing the.

Mike:

The manual.

Mike:

This thing, this is kind of like my all time favorite.

Mike:

It's a manual.

Mike:

The Trust Yourself System Manual.

Mike:

The ancient way of knowing.

Mike:

All the formulas are in here.

Mike:

Maybe someone doesn't want to read.

Mike:

Right.

Mike:

They don't have time or whatever.

Mike:

It's all a formulas laid out.

Mike:

They can plug it in.

Mike:

Boom, boom, boom.

Mike:

For dream signs and intuition.

Mike:

And then our, our favorite for couples, Sociology of soul, spiritual coupling.

Mike:

Oh.

Mike:

All kinds of good topics in this book.

Mike:

So.

Mike:

So yeah, you know what I would say if they, if they do just kind of let, let their inner self, their higher self choose where they want to start, you know?

Host:

Right.

Mike:

And they can get to using their intuition.

Mike:

Right.

Mike:

Right off.

Mike:

Rip.

Host:

Hey, well, guys, thanks so much for being a great guest on the podcast and blessings on what you do.

Mike:

Thanks, Keith.

Mike:

Back at you.

Mike:

Thank you.

Nicole:

Enjoyed it.

Nicole:

Thank you.

Host:

Thank you.

Nicole:

Bye.

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I am Byrene Haney, the Assistant to the President of Iowa District West for Missions, Human Care, and Stewardship. Drawn to Western Iowa by its inspiring mission opportunities, I dedicate myself to helping churches connect with the unconnected and disengaged in their communities. As a loving husband, father, and grandfather, I strive to create authentic spaces for conversation through my podcast and blog.